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here to help out with the latest rule changes and such. I've been asked by
to explain the rule with claiming duel monsters upon joining the club. So here goes:
Once a duel monster has been claimed all other forms (or what we deem to be another form) of that monster cannot be claimed.
Example: Magician of Black Chaos is claimed, thus Dark Magician of Chaos cannot be claimed.
This also includes Fusions. If the Fusion monster is claimed before the material is then the material and other forms of those material monsters cannot be claimed and vice versa.
Example 1: B. Skull Dragon is claimed before Red-Eyes B. Dragon and Summoned Skull. This then means that neither Summoned Skull nor Red-Eyes B. Dragon can be claimed and on top of that Archfiend Zombie-Skull, Skull Archfiend of Lightning, Red-Eyes B. Chick, Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon, Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon, Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, Red-Eyes Wyvern and even Meteor Black Dragon cannot be claimed. Also in this case, although Meteor Black Dragon cannot be claimed, Meteor Dragon can.
Example 2: If Knight of Destiny is claimed then none of the knights, dragons or fusions with those cards can be claimed but the other material of those fusions can be so long as they or another form of theirs has not been claimed. (e.g. Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight, Timeus (sp?) cannot be claimed but Dark Magician Girl can be provided she or another form of hers, e.g. Toon Dark Magician Girl, has not been claimed)
Another situation that comes up is with cards like the Harpie Ladies. Here's how this will work:
Harpie Lady/Harpie Lady 1/ Cyber Harpie Lady: These have all been deemed to be different forms of the same monster and thus if one of these is claimed the others cannot be.
Harpie Lady Sisters: If this is claimed first then Harpie Lady 2 and Harpie Lady 3 and also Harpie Lady 1, Cyber Harpie Lady and Harpie Lady herself cannot be claimed. If however one of these is claimed before Harpie Lady Sisters then Harpie Lady Sisters cannot be claimed. This is because Harpie Lady 2 and 3 are sisters of Harpie Lady/Harpie Lady 1/Cyber Harpie Lady and thus are not the same monster but Harpie Lady Sisters is another form of all 3 of these. (so the fusion rule basically applies to this situation).
Last situation: If for example, Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys is claimed then Dark Nephthys becomes unclaimable and vice versa. This is because they are the same monster just one happens to be a dark/evil version.
Just incase people are wondering this does not apply to the likes of Kuriboh and Winged Kuriboh as they are two seperate monsters. The reasoning behind this is that, for example, Armed Dragon Lv7 and Dark Armed Dragon are never shown on the same card, however Winged Kuriboh and Kuriboh are deeming them to be two seperate monsters.
To make things perhaps a little easier for those deciding on a monster to claim we shall be adding a list of monster forms that cannot be claimed below. This list will not include the form that has already been claimed so check the member's list for that if you want to check.
List of unclaimable forms:
Alligator Sword Dragon
Arcanite Magician /Assault Mode
Archfiend Zombie-Skull
Armed Dragons Lv 3, 5, 7 and 10
Avenging Knight Parshath
Big Koala
B. Skull Dragon
Blade Skater
Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon
Blue-Eyes Toon Dragon
Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon
Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
Chimeratech Overdragon
Chrysalis Larva
Claw of Hermos
Cyber End Dragon
Cyber Harpie Lady
Cyber Twin Dragon
Dark Armed Dragon
Dark Elf
Dark Horus
Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight
Dark Magician of Chaos
Dark Nephthys
Des Kangaroo
Destiny End Dragoon
Divine Dragon Ragnarok
Drillroid
Elemental hero Plasma Vice
Elemental Hero Wildedge
Empress Judge
Eye of Timaeus
Etoile Cyber
Familiar Possessed - Aussa
Fang of Critias
Fortune Lady Light
Gearfried the Swordmanster
Gilford the Legend
Gradius
Guardian Angel Joan
Harpie Lady 1
Harpie's Pet Baby Dragon
Horus the Black Flame Dragon Lvs 4,6 and 8
Jinzo #7
Jinzo - Lord
Jinzo - Returner
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Legendary Knight - Critias
Legendary Knight - Hermos
Legendary Knight - Timaeus
Lord of D.
Manga Ryu Ran
Majestic Star Dragon
Meteor Black Dragon
Neo-Spacian Flare Scarab
Neo-Parshath the Sky Paladin
Obnoxious Celtic Guard
Phoenix Gearfried
Princess Curran
Proto-Cyber Dragon
Rainbow Dragon
Reaper on the Nightmare
Red Dragon Archfiend
Red-Eyes B. Chick
Red-Eyes B. Metal Dragon
Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
Red-Eyes Wyvern
Red-Eyes Zombie Dragon
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Saviour Deamon's Dragon
Silent Magician Lvs 4 and 8
Silent Swordman Lvs 3,5 and 7
Skull Archfiend of Lightning
Stardust Dragon /Assault Mode
Steamroid
Submarineroid
The Creator Incarnate
The Dark Creator
Thousand Dragon
Thousand Eyes Restrict
Toon Dark Magician Girl
Toon Gemini Elf
Toon Mermaid
Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem
White Stone of Legend
Yubel - Terror Incarnate
Yubei - The Ultimate Nightmare
and any of the fusions including Eye of Timaeus, Claw of Hermos and Fang of Critias
any fusions containing Drillroid, Submarineroid and Streamroid
There are some clashes that need to be sorted out (mainly with Dark Magician forms/fusions and the Elemental Hero fusions) and some mre may need to be added when i have time and when the decision on the last situation is decided upon so watch this space for updates.
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